I wanted give some dialog about the points raised in Justin's sermon on divorce and remarriage. In it he acknowledges the objection:
In the Gospel of Matthew, doesn’t Jesus say that if one spouse commits adultery, the marital bond is broken, and the faithful spouse is now free to divorce and remarry?Then, he lists 10 reasons why he disagrees with the one who answers 'yes' to this question. Here are the 10 reasons and my responses.
1. If the word “porneia” (sexual immorality) means “adultery” in these verses, then our marriages will not reflect Christ’s union with His Church. If our marriages are to reflect His bond with us, should we not also remain faithfully committed to our spouses even when they are not committed to us?
I don't take the word to mean "adultery." It is a general term indicating "sexual immorality." There seems to be good support for this in Kittel. In the OT and intertestamental period the use of "porneia" is a general term which may include adultery. Also, the Post-Apostolic Fathers distinguished "porneia" from "moicheia," but "moicheia" was a form of "porneia." Also, taking the word as "fornication" or "sexual immorality" in the context of Mt. 19 seems like the better option. We should also note that "fornication," even in English, is a general term that sometimes includes adultery.
Nonetheless, the objection remains. Our marriages should reflect Christ's union with his Church, yes. But the marriage bond is between two imperfect people. Christ always treats his Church graciously and he is never injured by our unfaithfulness. The analogy of Christ and the Church, and man and wife eventually breaks down. Ex: Christ is the head of the Church as man is head of the wife, but the man is not perfect and he shouldn't be obeyed as Christ is obeyed. We should remain committed to our spouses even when they are not committed to us. Separation is permitted and not commanded.
2. An understanding of Jewish marriage practices in the first century provide an adequate explanation for what Jesus meant when He said, "except for sexual immorality."
I would agree that Jesus' teaching certainly includes premarital sex (being found with some indecency during the betrothal or at the consummation) as a reason for divorce, but in the context, it doesn't seem to be what Jesus and the Pharisees are talking about. Rather, they are discussing marriage in general. If they were talking exclusively about premarital sex and divorce during the betrothal period, we should expect there to be more evidence of this. The straight-forward reading of the text reveals that marriage in general and sexual immorality in general is the issue at hand.
3. Jesus could have used the word for adultery (“moichea”) if that is what He intended to say, but he chose not to. Also include points 4, 5, and 6, here, as they are all related to the use of "porneia."
No complaints here. The use of the word "sexual immorality" can include immorality before the marriage (without prior knowledge), during the betrothal period, and after consummation. If he would have used the word "moichea," it would not include unknown sexual immorality before the marriage.
7. The betrothal view makes sense because it would specifically apply to Matthew’s Jewish audience and not to Mark or Luke’s Gentile audience, which explains the omission of the exception clause there.
There is no contradiction in these verses according to the majority view. Scripture interprets Scripture. Therefore, when something doesn't seem to jibe or make sense, you go to the fuller teaching and let that interpret the other verses. In this case, the Matthew text is fuller, so we should use that to inform our readings of Mark and Luke. Similarly, Luke informs a proper reading of Mark on the divorce issue, applying it to the woman also. Mark and Luke lay out the general rule. Matthew gives the general rule and provides an exception to it.
Examples:
General Rule: "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23).
Exception: "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin" (Heb. 4:15).
General Rule: Teacher: If anyone leaves this classroom before the test is over, he will receive a failing grade
Exception: Teacher: If anyone leaves this classroom before the test is over (except for an emergency), he will receive a failing grade.
Those two statements are not contradictory. Both have the general rule, but one explains that there is an exception in case of an emergency. If these two statements were read or heard in a classroom, we would not see a problem with it. We would allow the fuller statement to inform the general that appears absolute.
8. For those who would argue that betrothal is not in view in Matthew 5 or 19, I should point out that they are exactly right. Indeed, that seems to me to be the whole point. Jesus is saying that “porneia” - sexual immorality before a husband and wife come together in marriage – is not what He’s talking about.” That is the whole point of the exception clause.
I guess this is where some speculation comes into play. We're trying to figure out what the hearers would hear... or what the readers would read. How would the Jewish readers take this teaching? And I just don't see it the same way you do. "Porneia," as mentioned previously, was used as a broad term denoting sexual immorality. It doesn't seem like that the "hearers/readers" would automatically think "betrothal period" when Jesus uses the word "porneia." It seems more likely to me that they would think of general sexual immorality.
Let me say also that this would not open the floodgates for divorce. Jesus has already said that the original intention for marriage is one man and one woman in a lifetime of marriage. He has also said that divorce was permitted because of "hardness of heart." That's the context for this exception. The general rule is "no divorce." The exception is sexual immorality.
9. Just before Jesus teaches on divorce and remarriage in Matthew 19, He speaks on the issue of forgiveness, calling us to forgive others not seven times, but seventy times seven. How would the view that adultery is grounds for divorce square with this?
We should forgive one another, no doubt. In marriage, husband and wife should live sacrificially for one another, seeking the fulfill the needs of the other. But it also seems divorce (reserved for extreme circumstances) may be the most loving thing in some circumstances. It is not God's original intention, but he permits it because of the hardness of hearts.
Also, forgiveness doesn't mean that there are no consequences for certain actions. In the Old Testament, the consequence for sexual immorality would be death. That's not very forgiving. Further, unconditional love and forgiveness is not only required of married couples, but of everyone who follows Jesus. Forgiveness doesn't negate consequences.
10. If your spouse commits adultery, which would better display the character of God? Choosing to divorce your spouse and marry someone else, or choosing to be faithful and forgiving towards your spouse no matter how unfaithful he or she may have been to you?
Forgiveness would better display the character of God. That should always be the default reaction to unfaithfulness. But, can't you see how divorce might be the loving thing for extreme cases (severe abuse, child molestation, serial and continual adultery)? And if we allow it for one of these extreme cases, our discussion changes. Then it becomes about what is and isn't permissible divorce, and avoids the argument that divorce is never permissible (Also see Doug Wilson's article, Time to Walk.).
But isn't this already the case from 1 Cor. 7:15? In your sermon, you say:
If the unbelieving spouse wishes to separate, let it be so... Note, saying that the husband and wife can separate - even if this is taken to mean divorce - does not mean that their spiritual bond is broken. It is God who creates the bond, and it is only God who can destroy it. In order that there may be peace and that Christ's union to the Church not be blasphemed, the couple is allowed to separate.Doesn't that contradict what you'd said earlier in the sermon?
Therefore, just as we believe that Christ would never break nor defile His union with His church, nor should any person seek to break or defile the marital union with his or her spouse. To seek a divorce is to try (unsuccessfully) to break the union which God created; to remarry is to defile that union. I think Scripture and love for Christ prohibits both.I'll add that one's view of "covenant" will determine his/her view of the marriage covenant. Can some covenants be broken/annulled? If you say 'yes' then you are more likely to say that divorce is sometimes, regrettably, allowed. If you say 'no' then you're more likely to say divorce, being a covenant, is never allowed. It seems, though, that those who hold to a "divorce never allowed" view, impose that view onto their view of "covenant."
3 comments:
Just in case anyone reading this blog doesn't know, Jim and I are good friends. These online discussions that we have are meant to help us and hopefully any readers to sharpen their thinking about key Biblical issues.
I am thankful that Jim took time to critique one of my sermons. I hope my response will help clear up some things.
Let me begin by saying that Jim gets close to the heart of the issue at the end of this post when he says that "one's view of 'covenant' will determine his/her view of the marriage covenant." However, I would suggest that its not just one's view of 'covenant' per se, but of 'covenant union' that is really the crucial issue. When we as Christians enter into the New Covenant, we not only enter the promises of Christ, but are actually united to Him in a spiritual way. And since marriage is supposed to reflect this relationship to the world, I am convinced that when we enter into a covenant relationship with a spouse, the union that results is not merely a legal union, but a spiritual one. Moreover, I am convinced that this spiritual union is wrought by God and cannot be broken by any local judge. Only death breaks the spiritual union of marriage. This is the premise on which my view of marriage rests, and its this premise that my sermon seeks to explain and defend from Scripture.
I deal with the Matthean passages in my sermon because it is the exception clause in Matthew 5 and 19 that people most often point to in order to raise an objection to the no-divorce view. But most certainly my view does not rest on Matthew. It finds its basis in Genesis and Malachi and Ephesians and Mark and Luke, and then seeks to interpret Matthew (rather than vice versa.)
Most of Jim's points I've already addressed in the comments section of a previous post. Let me just say that
a. Again, no one denies that the basic meaning of 'porneia' is sexual immorality. I just believe that there are ample reasons to think that in this context the word refers to a particular kind of sexual immorality, as it does in various other places.
b. Of course separation is permitted if a spouse is being abused. But there's a difference between separation and divorce. A spouse may separate for safety reasons from her spouse, yet still continue to pray for her spouse and to seek reconciliation through the Gospel. But to divorce is to seek to break the union that God has created. This is the sense in which Jesus says "What God has brought together, let not man separate." 1st Corinthians speaks to this very issue.
c. It is true that the traditional view of the Matthean passages does not contradict Mark and Luke, but it does contradict the commands of Ephesians 5. The Betrothal View, however, not only resolves this contradiction, but conveniently explains the differences between Matthew and the other synoptics, and explains the respons of the disciples in Matthew 19. The traditional view does none of these well.
d. You say "The general rule is 'no divorce.' The exception is sexual immorality." I agree. The issue is this: what kind of sexual immorality is grounds for divorce? Any kind? Only extreme kinds? How do you know what porneia means here? Again, the cultural context of Jesus and the very fact that Matthew included the story of Joseph's almost-divorce of Mary point to the most valid answer to this question - pre-marital sex. This is the sense of 'porneia' intended. Remember, there was NO OTHER GREEK WORD Jesus could have used to speak of premarital sex! The Jews understood His meaning perfectly.
e. I disagree wholeheartedly with your statement that "divorce may be the most loving thing in some circumstances". Divorce may SEEM like the most loving thing, but forgiveness truly IS the most loving thing. Which better displays the kindness of Christ? Which better displays His character? The day that Jesus will divorce His Church is the day that I'll view divorce as godly. But it isn't godly - it is contrary to the very character of Christ. Forgiveness is always the way to go.
Now yes, I am absolutely aware that there are times when a person may need to separate from his/her spouse for the sake of peace and safety. But that is not the same thing as seeking a divorce (seeking to break the marital union). A couple may separate for a period because they believe it is the best thing for their marital union, in the prayer that reconciliation will one day be reached. But do divorce is to choose not to be reconciled. There is no contradiction as you suggest, because there is a clear distinction between separating for the sake of peace (with the hopes of reconciliation) and divorce.
I can think of no example in which divorce best displays the character of Christ and the Gospel. Christ loves His Church unconditionally despite the fact that she is often overwhelmingly unfaithful. We should imitate Him.
Howdy-I have made several comments on your blog before and have even ask a question? No response. I like your topics and I also Pastor in the same denomination like you.
Do you every respond to question? Is this a closed blog? I am just curious? I like the topics.
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Hey Tex -
Glad you like the blog. There's four of us that occasionally put up a post here - all pastors - but it's open to anyone who wants to comment. I'm sorry we didn;t respond to your question - we leave each other hanging pretty often as well!
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